ReViewing Chess: Ruy Lopez (Spanish), Moeller and Steinitz Deferred (ReViewing Chess: Openings)

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Nf6 16 pgs Part 2: Re8 12 pgs Index of Variations 3 pgs. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2. You can leave a response , or trackback from your own site. Play the Ruy Lopez. Newer Post Older Post Home. Privacy Policy Google, as a third party vendor, uses cookies to serve ads on your site. Google's use of the DART cookie enables it to serve ads to your users based on their visit to your sites and other sites on the Internet.

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This is what I was intending to check before I found 8. Bg7, when I will likely try and find some advantage after 9. So if someone could refute Be6, it would do much of the job. Yes, that looks much more human Btw, it is the same line which I originally suggested for White against my Bd6: My general practical considerations on the positions after Black on the other has very active pieces and will probably have for a forseeable future. On the other hand black has some problems creating truly dangerous pressure and in the long term white's extra piece means he should minimum never risk losing most of the more simplified positions that can arise.

There is a lot of perpetuals and repetitions definitely more then in the pgn above in these positions. A simpler choice mainly for the otb player compared to If I am correct then there are not that many good alternatives to the continuation given and the end position there looks fairly riskless. Must have completely blacked out here.

Was in fact checking: Bd2 c5 only now c5 as Sorry for any confusion. Here is some analysis of the reasonable lines I could find after Sadly I haven't found much of an advantage for white anywhere. The more options the better. Will check this also. A classic mistake on the internet. It is much fine to say " I am not convinced if i don't see some sample analysis ", i have said this type of thing several times in this foroum but talking on behalf of others is usually not.

I analysed it a bit and found Black to be fine, but didn't want to start a big discussion about moves and variations because simply it doesn't look right the line i mean Simply put. As you allude to you have analysed a bit. If you don't want to publish analysis it is very much ok.

I had mentioned the puzzle in another thread. That's why I was asking you. Two dates are given in the literature, and , no source. I analysed it a bit and found Black to be fine, but didn't want to start a big discussion about moves and variations because simply it doesn't look right the line i mean As far as 4. No, it was not a full repertoire coverage though. In the book i wrote and it at the printer as i post this out in a few weeks and before the end of the month at Forward Chess , the line that caused me the most problems was 1. Bd2 strikes me as a very easy and practical choice for White, maybe not to get an objective advantage, but the kind of line which you can fall back when a trendy theoretical line that is your first choice gets neutralised in a super-tournament.

Others prefer the crystal ball of the databases, and then it's It tells you that 4. Nc3 works pretty well in practice. Just the same as Dr. In your final position, Black plays Three pawns for the piece, Black has nothing to fear. If someone finds a source where Bd6! It's a logical move The following is what Tartakower said about 4. I'm fairly optimistic about's white chances in the 4. It is what I play personally with good results. I am thus of course not in principle against a switch to a 4. If the answers are little and not without much work then obviously there is some work cut out and an eventual finished repertoire would be a long way off.

In contrast after 4. Nc3 I would say a finished repertoire is not a long way of. This is provided we can settle for a line after Nf6 three have been suggested and at least four mentioned. The prospect of finishing some kind of repertoire in near time and then ideally moving on is basically why I at least am drawn to analysing 4. I suggest starting parallell discussions to those already in progress if you have a new line you want to analyse.

Such have been known to go on before in this thread and I don't see it negatively infuencing the project; unless the suggesting of new lines goes completely out of control, which I doubt. Obviously I would suggest the same for those that would like a 4. Download game in pgn format While positions reached are not entirely clear I think white is reasonably safe and also there is an extra piece to work with in the long run.

Something like this seems fairly nice for white.

Nontheless I can put in a few lines of analysis on the move into an eventual Jaenisch There is some amount of compensation for the piece should white take it and Bg4 is a natural move should it work. It's a small plus. Whether it would satisfy a Corr player is another question This seems nice and fairly practical.

The h1 square is not fantastic for the king. I thought I would post something on One realisation on this is that 7. Alternatives also seem decent of course: Download game in pgn format In CbT's new sideline just posted! Download game in pgn format Winning chances etc. That being said it useful for the repertoire to avoid lines with obviously zero winning chances. Download game in pgn format Basically I thought I'd ask if anyone sees any drawbacks to this 6. Download game in pgn format Unless someone has a big improvement on this, I think 4.

Download game in pgn format Needless to say a plan would be to make something similar about the Nf6 lines and then maybe fuse that with the file above. That should produce a reasonable Jaenisch repertoire. After a fair bit of reading I have come to think that at least the Jaenisch coverage in this thread is very near enough to build a repertoire from. This is true at least for a 4. The other move 4. I would say that for a 4. Nc3 repertoire with the lines discussed in this thread there are two definite mainlines to crack: If this is enough analytically then the analysis should just be polished I can do this if no one else will before being bunched together with the other lines in the Jaenisch repertoire.

Perhaps because of this another line was proposed in I wonder if we have this and which of the lines if any is to be chosen in the repertoire? I await some kind of comment on these lines. If we decide to go for something in either line I will gladly help analyze. Your belief a very reasonable belief, imo isn't necessarily a contradiction to Markovich's approach.

In reply 19 he said the following: Well, I understand what Stefan wrote in the previous post. But what you write is Have you ever taken a closer look at the development of opening theory? Would you have been a part of the indian evolution on 1. Would you have found Would you have actively taken part in the development of say No, would you have accepted the Pirc at all?

When looking back in theoretical development: Perhaps before Breyer's irritating jump back with Nc6-b8 in the Lopez? To change a question of your own: Do you think you would have the slightest chance playing a top GM if he would play the ridiculous moves Nevertheless I wish you the best in discussing main lines. There too are loads of novelties but that allways need an open mind It's hard for White to attack Black's structure c6, d6, f6, and there is enough room for black counterplay.

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Similar to the misjudged Englund Declined. As in "anything goes, I can even decline the Englund and keep a solid plus". Basically, for better or worse, because no one has pushed through rules preventing discussion and analysis of highly offbeat tries. Either way I think consolidation of results before moving on is very important I don't think baking a mega PGN is enough on its own here. Yes that is the point of Steinitz' artistic, irritating, sometimes ridiculous approaches on his strongpoint e5 concept.

He had quite some tries on that very subject, the one or the other even ending in complete reocupation of his back rank with his pieces But in fact f7-f6 takes at the earliest possibility the sting out of the spanish concept - the weakness e5 is covered. Is it to bad?! After f7-f6, the Bb5 has played his mayor role, or am i wrong?

Yes, due to the pin of the Nc6 he further put's a question to the ideal d7-d6 but more than once that never the less may work as there are a7-a6 and b7-b5 to break the pin. Returning to c4 is natural, but a tempo down to the Italian but a weakness up on a2-g8 - but is this too relevant?! The pragmatism bases on the work of the strongpoint e5. I don't see how this can be overruned. What are those challenging moves?! Browsing through Steintz' games with the strongpoint e5 concept he more than once ended in a sort of king's indian structure.

He had not too much luck with it, which may have its reasons in the exhaustive backward tended play - as for example Tarrasch - Steinitz shows. At the end he surrendered the exaggerated attempts on it. May be a sign But as you Stefan showed with your Nef4 idea there are more active concepts - which in return give white some prospects for play.

No, no that is not you Stefan. That is perhaps Max Euwe of the s. Not only some selected main variations count Shall we really confine ourselfs to search for novelties in move 38 or later?? He got his share of played, but lost, but not due to the opening. The game Tarrasch - Steinitz shows that Steinitz was willing to play the position after d4-d5.

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Bd3 Nb8, what do you get what you wouldn't in Tarrasch's move order? On the other side, 4. Now I have to leave for Christmas festivities, so right now this has to suffice. Basically my idea was: Download game in pgn format For a "theoretical" discussion, the Marshall Gambit should be a priority, but final conclusions are not easy to see.

I tried to avoid that the move As pointed out I'm at least not sure about this move. But Stefan had it in a quite positive conotation in the given source What has changed your mind on The insights you gave where interesting. Okay it was pre-computer era and there may be improvements. Wasn't it about 4. I hope you will forgive my scepticism, but I need a little more to be convinced. OK, it wouldn't surprise me if accepting the pawn provides compensation although this needs to be proven yet but I quite like 9.

Nxd4 and White has a very nice and stable advantage, Janovsky-Tseshkovsky, Voskresensk Bg5 Qe6 Qg6 Bf4 remains nice for White; the Knight is not weaker than the Bishops, but Black's pawns are weaker than White's While preparing for yesterdays cupmatch, I bumbed on a very interesting new idea: Qb3 Download game in pgn format Black can surely improve with Rac1 and still a small pull.

It is just a quick analysis more than sufficient for a rapid OTB game. Still it is worth a closer look especially as the other critical lines were not convincing either. I also checked who the white player is and found out to my surprise that he is also from Belgium. He has no official rating and I've never heard about him but he does have on ficgs a remarkable record: If you look at his website he scheduled a new issue of Kaissiber for April but nothing has happened. He also writes about an illness.

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I would guess it's Ne5 Nd4 for approximate equality and even Ne5 seems to be fine for Black. I don't think white has anything after for example Qxf4 d4 or did you have something else in mind? I don't know that I see much advantage for White after White's h-pawn must advance, either one or two squares, and then Black's g-pawn falls. But Black's bishop goes to d6, and White doesn't seem to have the basis of a win, in my reckoning.

I think whatever we recommend shouldn't involve analysis out beyond move Either it should yield something resembling a stable advantage before then, or we should recommend an anti-Marshall, probably 8. Download game in pgn format OK, here it is.

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It was done without much checking, so you'd better check it yourself, but I believe the variations given are quite valid. White has nothing- factly I think the whole variation is more tricky to handle properly as white. Computers give at first a preponderance to white's pawn, but following natural moves they abruptly change their mind at some point. The Marshal is just too tough to die by such an unassuming line.

Well, in your line Rxe8 is not forced at all. Re2 is better instead. Black still has strong counterplay by sensibly playing down the e-file, it seems. I wouldn't worry a bit about such a computerized move, say after I will post some analysis soon. The analysis in Bernhard Lach:

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